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What is Emptying? Is it really the only route towards being in Community?


This is not a simple question. There are divergent beliefs that you will find amongst the international Community Building network. Mike Roth prefers to say: if we define "emptying" as the gateway into community then we still have 2 whole questions to answer: (1) how do we recognize this gateway? and (2)what kinds of things lead us towards this gateway?

It is not a simple question, because we have no concensus, within our extended network of "Community Building" even towards the broad principles of answers to these 2 questions. (If any readers think they do, could you please kindly put your answer in an e-mail, and send to the address below.)

One account is to be found elsewhere on our site (it stays on this site, in spite of the fact that the current WebMaster - Mike - is strongly critical of it. Mike thinks it is typical of the kind of things that get said about "emptying" and is probably typical of the kind of things that Scott Peck used to say - and therefore it needs to stay up here):-


"Emptying happens when individuals begin to notice what they are carrying within themselves that prevents them from being authentically present with the group and fully accepting others.  As people begin to share what is real for them - personal experience of the present moment in the group, prejudices, stories of past pain or joy, unfulfilled expectations - group members begin to come together in a new way.  In this stage, a group will often feel like it is dying but, in the painfu struggle to let go of the barriers to relationship, there is opportunity for something new to emerge.  The process of emptying provides room for a group to receive the gift of COMMUNITY."

Mike Roth thinks this is a mixture of rhetoric (in other words: language designed for particular purposes, rather than to communicate knowledge). he claims that this kind of talk is essentially manipulative: to make us feel how nice it is (even though it is not actually telling us how to recognize emptiness, or to encourage it), but also to pretend that we know the answers to questions (1) and (2) above - when actually we don't have any consensus about them at all.

Mike would argue that phrases like "being authentically present" "what is real for them" and "personal experience of the present moment" are so vague that they can mean pretty well anything, to whoever is reading them: therefore they provide a pretense at being a sort of guideline, when what they really do is to envelop speaker and listener alike, in a fog of pseudo-understanding.

So Mike prefers that we leave those crucial questions (1) and (2) open, and that we look upon the quest for building community - in workshops and in our lives - as a piece of open research. In this spirit of openness and exploration, Mike and Tracy penned the following impressionistic account, for the recent facilitator training (October-November 2008) in Oxfordshire:-

Experiences of emptiness

I am falling into a swirly pit of despair. I feel my energy draining away, I am giving up on it all, I can't do any more. Everything is starting to feel slowed down; time is dragging along, but then I feel there is plenty of time... I have a feeling of time and space opening up. And in that opening is a place for individuals to show aspects of themselves that they've previously kept hidden. (People may start to share feelings of shame, anxiety, previous burdens, any kind of sorrow or difficulty - where previously it had felt there really wasn't any space for....)

Somewhere in this process I find I am able to see people in a different light. Usually it starts with one person: the person who was irritating becomes lovable. It spreads to a a change of feeling about other people: I see their frailty and vulnerability and lostness.... maybe it's because I'm also able to recognize my own. This is a change that creeps up on me, until suddenly I see and feel that the whole group is different from how it was. Who has been transformed: them, or me?

At first, it may seem that I have done nothing - the change has come about without any conscious participation from me. But at some level of me, I have allowed myself to be open to this change. At some level, I have let go of something I was previously hanging on to.

Other experiences of emptiness, that seem like a more active engagement with myself:-

"I am struggling with these negative feelings: (despair, lost, alone). I don't know what to do about them. Or there are the scary things I do know what to do about (things I am almost ready to reveal.... but I feel ashamed). But I don't know the right way to go about it. Oh shit I am moved to speak, but its terribly hard...." Or the realization that something I have taken for granted without even thinking, is something I can perfectly well do without; some examples: wanting to be liked and accepted... or that sense that I always know what to do... or that "yearning in my heart" to reach community... or even the sense of knowing anything at all.... Who really needs any of this?

Authentic community building

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